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by Ashraf Laidi
Posted: Feb 20, 2010 5:00
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EUR

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said
mulhouse, France
Posts: 2822
14 years ago
Apr 13, 2010 20:01
catnip
u should add EW to ur system especially for forecasting coming volatility.
said
mulhouse, France
Posts: 2822
14 years ago
Apr 13, 2010 19:46
very good catnip
excepted that the likelyhood of catching plenty of fish during rain is higher than catching during bad good weather.
Shane
Lahore, Pakistan
Posts: 209
14 years ago
Apr 13, 2010 19:36
Wisely explained catnip
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Apr 13, 2010 19:22
Yes you need a kind of gut feeling as well. Howver I determined my most profitable trades so far all with the systems method and none had failed so far. For ex. I told a TA based trader not to short GBP
and went long GBP vs EUR and USD and I was right. And he was dead wrong. I just checked yield differentials and 2y 10 y and OIS and said GBP at least cannot fall. And it didn't. However the method won't work for scalping.
Gunjack
London, UK
Posts: 1184
14 years ago
Apr 13, 2010 19:13
V good point made earlier good economists/strategists don't make good traders...
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Apr 13, 2010 19:10
Sure there is always psychology involved. When you go out for fishing because the weather is fine instead of another day of trading there is psychology involved. But my approach is another my "theorem" says all markets are mutually dependent. Thus one cannot get a signal from a market that depends only on itself, but that is the approach of technical analysis and of EW. Thus I make a difference between a signal that is not from the market, and the market's response to the signal. This is of course psychological ( it cannot be otherwise ) only that I do not call it psychology I call it memory. Memory has the advantage that it has routines. That is one responds to signals automatically you don't think hey what the heck could that red light mean but you automatically slow down.
So briefly I use a system theory approach. Btw the legendary ole Doug Kass used around 10 variables
to determine whether buy or sell or hold some particular stock.
Shane
Lahore, Pakistan
Posts: 209
14 years ago
Apr 13, 2010 18:47
catnip
If its not driven by sentiment than can we call it human psychology, which actually acts as a catalyst. Many experienced traders suggest reading books on crowd psychology. If none is involved than why certain figures have so much importance . I believe its basically technical and psychological at short term and its psychological and fundamental at long term. So psychological is one hell of an important factor.
Psychological doesnot only comprise how we believe the price may react but counter psychology aswell, thats why 95% of the traders loose as they believe in psychology but dont give a heed to counter psychology.
said
mulhouse, France
Posts: 2822
14 years ago
Apr 13, 2010 18:39
i use EW as a proactive tool looking forward bearing always in mind that i ahev to build different scenari and waiting a particle which is the signal. but EW as i see it is more proactive forecasting tool.
interesting analogy
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Apr 13, 2010 18:34
Imo FX is not determined by sentiment. The less safe currency is sold for the more safe.
So one has to have a measure of safe. This difference is a signal. One has to have a model of the market to determine or to forecast how does the system market respond to that signal . While this is
not difficult the problem is what is the delay between occurrence of signal and system response.
The delay depends on the signal. As an analogy that would be a flash of very bright light travels faster
then lighting up of a lighter. So we have a problem of non linearity of the system. If we simplify that to inertia then EW is a tool to determine the timing when the market reacts to the signal.
rrose
United States
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Apr 13, 2010 18:22
for one you could look at todd gordons charts