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by Ashraf Laidi
Posted: Feb 22, 2010 5:00
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Gold, Oil & Indices (Equity & Bond Indices)

Discuss Gold, Oil & Indices (Equity & Bond Indices)
 
asad
London, UK
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 10:32
Chartvuze,

Just out of interest, when rats leave a sinking ship, where do they head (say, if the ship is in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean)? I mean, can they swim? No, seriously...


Asad
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 10:29
Not so gold ETFs was 90% EUR buy and 100% of physical gold minted in australia went to europe
lucky
ibadan, Nigeria
Posts: 377
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 10:06
so far euro zone are not printing money gold will fall with euro because from where they will bring money and i am sure central banks wont buy gold at these levels my opinion
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 9:59
I have limit short at 1260 what is going on with cable? UK debt problem may be raising gold.
lucky
ibadan, Nigeria
Posts: 377
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 9:56
i am afraid of these silence in gold be carefull use sl for shot or for long there a big move soon but i can indicate the direction now if its up word it will be capped at 1266 it more likely to be down word
Chartvuze
salisbury, UK
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 9:27
I think that Lucky is probably right , once the big players see their gains start
to drop they will sell in droves like rats leaving a sinking ship.

I think there will be a big sell off in gold, it will rise slightly then drop,
late today or tomorrow.

I'm always right, I wish

good luck out there
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 9:00
be careful with oil stocks look for nat gas and ethanol my guess

May 13 (Bloomberg) -- Energy companies borrowing costs are rising at the fastest pace in 17 months after an oil rig leased by BP Plc exploded, killing 11 people, spewing crude into the Gulf of Mexico and prompting a moratorium on new drilling.

The extra yield investors demand to hold energy company bonds instead of benchmark government securities jumped 32 basis points since April 28, the biggest two-week increase since the period ended Dec. 4, 2008, according to Bank of America Merrill Lynchs U.S. Corporates, Energy index. The notes are the worst performing industrial debt this month except for basic industries, losing 0.96 percent, the data show.

Borrowing costs are rising as estimates of the cleanup reach $12.5 billion, with BP, Europes largest oil and gas company, on the hook for $8 billion, according to analysts at Sanford C. Bernstein. The London-based companys bonds are suffering along with the debt of other firms involved including Transocean Ltd. and Halliburton Co. Moodys Investors Service and Standard & Poors say they may cut their ratings on BP debt.

This whole thing is a monster thats going to take years to resolve, said David Kotok, chairman and chief investment officer of Cumberland Advisors in Sarasota, Florida. As we saw with the financial crisis, at the start estimates are small and they rise as more information is obtained.
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 8:59
My conclusion is that some panic frenzy buying of physical gold cannot move price of gold that much.
It is rather so that European banks are parking artificially cheap Eur ( because of the ECB's buying of
hig yield sovereigns at articifially low yields ) in gold ETF and will withdraw once trust in EUR recovers.
That makes a huge windfall profit if they concurrently short gold. And looking at COT data indeed gold shorts are again raising. I don't know how trust in EUR could be restored but I know that some know how to.
lucky
ibadan, Nigeria
Posts: 377
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 8:49
good morning guys u am expecting gold to break support 1236 since it failed to reach its all time high in asian session at least once as i said earlier people are making profit in these area but they dont want the price to slide now for them to enjoy as much as possible my opinion
catnip
Frankfurt, Germany
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
May 13, 2010 7:01
rrose
no i don't work for a bank but when i was with IBM as an information infrastructure architect I learned
pretty much about how banks work in equity and option trading .... so I am convinced markets are not irrational but the trader's model of the market is irrational. This does not mean markets are manipulated it means markets are computable ahead of the curve. For ex. one of my closest friends,
a Russian top mathematician who escaped from Yeltzin mafia to the US and became US citizen told me
after being a year with Goldman ( he retired after one year aged 69) Goldman employs the world's best paid mathematicians. And quite many of them. What could be more rational then mathematics?