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by Ashraf Laidi
Posted: Feb 22, 2010 5:00
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Gold, Oil & Indices (Equity & Bond Indices)

Discuss Gold, Oil & Indices (Equity & Bond Indices)
 
Gunjack
London, UK
Posts: 1184
14 years ago
Jul 18, 2010 12:40
@Qiman I have been following Sugar and Cocoa ( the london contracts) closely over the last few weeks and both have been a one way bet recently. The move in Cocoa on friday was quite large
montmorency
Abingdon, UK
Posts: 610
14 years ago
Jul 18, 2010 12:10
That's interesting. In the grand scheme of things, 658M isn't so much is it, for hedge funds and such? Is it really possible to corner the market with so (relatively!) little? I can see the firms who use it kicking up, and maybe forcing further regulation. Hasn't there been talk of commodity trading regulation recently, to try to guard against this sort of thing? Hmm...Kraft have just bought Cadbury haven't they; might not have much spare cash left for cocoa!
Qiman
United States
Posts: 237
14 years ago
Jul 18, 2010 1:59
Wasn't sure where to put this article, but since it is about a commodity here it is. I follow other commodities as opportunities arise, and this is a very interesting development:

Mystery trader buys all Europe's cocoa
Even Willy Wonka might struggle to use this much chocolate. Yesterday, somebody bought 241,000 tonnes of cocoa beans.

It is unclear which person, or group of traders, was behind the deal, but it was the largest single cocoa trade for 14 years.

The cocoa beans, which are sitting in warehouses either in The Netherlands, Hamburg, or closer to home in London, Liverpool or Humberside is equivalent to the entire supply of the commodity in Europe, and would fill more than five Titanics. They are worth 658 million.

Analysts said it was very unlikely that a chocolate company, such as Nestle or Kraft, or even their suppliers, would buy such a huge order in one go and that is was probable that one or a number of speculators, possibly hedge funds, had attempted to corner the market. By doing this, they would have control of the entire supply in Europe, forcing the price yet higher
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/7895242/Mystery-trader-buys-all-Europes-cocoa.html
montmorency
Abingdon, UK
Posts: 610
14 years ago
Jul 16, 2010 20:17
There used to be plenty of gold bears around here. Well, even some on ZH are bearish now:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/gold-plunges-paulson-liquidation-speculation-abounds-again-fund-rumored-be-down-1-billion-da

(see the comments beneath the article).

said
mulhouse, France
Posts: 2822
14 years ago
Jul 16, 2010 13:20
erratum

73sih
said
France
Posted Anonymously
14 years ago
Jul 16, 2010 13:02
gunjack

even lower than that at the 93ish
oil just terminated an impilsive wave
the retreat is for few dollars down.
the upmove of yesterday was in the corrective pattern.
Gunjack
London, UK
Posts: 1184
14 years ago
Jul 16, 2010 12:13
@Said can't say I know about the Saxo bank chart but what I see on my chart is support around 75.4 in the Aug fut. Personally looking for another shorting opp around 78
said
mulhouse, France
Posts: 2822
14 years ago
Jul 15, 2010 19:01
gunjack asad
i know u trade ice crude
is there a support at 75.75 on saxo chart.

thanks guys
Gunjack
London, UK
Posts: 1184
14 years ago
Jul 15, 2010 16:34
Short CL covered @ 75.5
Gunjack
London, UK
Posts: 1184
14 years ago
Jul 15, 2010 15:20
@Asad - my cousin has an event on 29/7 at Vendome if your interested...got Dubai's No. 1 DJ Adan J playing the decks